1 00:00:04,870 --> 00:00:02,790 hi welcome to the international space 2 00:00:07,590 --> 00:00:04,880 station flight controller flight control 3 00:00:09,270 --> 00:00:07,600 room we have here today uh anthony 4 00:00:10,390 --> 00:00:09,280 barria who is a spartan flight 5 00:00:13,270 --> 00:00:10,400 controller and he's going to give us an 6 00:00:15,270 --> 00:00:13,280 update on the uh ammonia link that we 7 00:00:17,430 --> 00:00:15,280 had the space walk over the weekend to 8 00:00:19,189 --> 00:00:17,440 repair thanks so much for joining us 9 00:00:20,710 --> 00:00:19,199 anthony good morning glad to be here 10 00:00:22,150 --> 00:00:20,720 okay why don't we start with uh real 11 00:00:23,990 --> 00:00:22,160 quick explaining what a spartan is 12 00:00:25,189 --> 00:00:24,000 because okay that background spartan's 13 00:00:27,830 --> 00:00:25,199 in charge of the electrical and the 14 00:00:30,070 --> 00:00:27,840 thermal systems onboard station so uh 15 00:00:32,150 --> 00:00:30,080 all the ammonia power all the ammonia 16 00:00:33,430 --> 00:00:32,160 cooling systems on the external uh on 17 00:00:35,750 --> 00:00:33,440 the external part of the station that 18 00:00:38,229 --> 00:00:35,760 takes away the heat from the modules and 19 00:00:40,069 --> 00:00:38,239 the in this case the eva was done on the 20 00:00:41,910 --> 00:00:40,079 uh the cooling system that cools the 21 00:00:44,150 --> 00:00:41,920 batteries you know just like a cellu 22 00:00:45,590 --> 00:00:44,160 cellular phone 23 00:00:47,670 --> 00:00:45,600 batteries get hot when they are 24 00:00:49,510 --> 00:00:47,680 discharging and so we have to have an 25 00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:49,520 ammonia cooling system to radiate that 26 00:00:53,750 --> 00:00:51,600 heat away via radiator so we've got a 27 00:00:56,229 --> 00:00:53,760 pump runs it through the the batteries 28 00:00:57,670 --> 00:00:56,239 underneath the batteries and then uh 29 00:00:59,990 --> 00:00:57,680 releases that heat into space by our 30 00:01:02,630 --> 00:01:00,000 radiator so that's uh that's where we 31 00:01:04,310 --> 00:01:02,640 had the uh the the leak this past week 32 00:01:05,830 --> 00:01:04,320 and we have a graphic here of uh what 33 00:01:07,429 --> 00:01:05,840 that area looks like exactly so that's 34 00:01:09,510 --> 00:01:07,439 out on the p6 truss we're talking the 35 00:01:11,590 --> 00:01:09,520 far port side of the of the space 36 00:01:13,510 --> 00:01:11,600 station now p6 truss was actually even 37 00:01:15,350 --> 00:01:13,520 though it's way out on the end uh that 38 00:01:17,350 --> 00:01:15,360 piece of truss has been on orbit since 39 00:01:18,950 --> 00:01:17,360 gosh 2000 or something something in that 40 00:01:20,710 --> 00:01:18,960 time frame right 41 00:01:22,390 --> 00:01:20,720 and uh that was back when the station 42 00:01:24,630 --> 00:01:22,400 was much smaller so as we built out the 43 00:01:26,710 --> 00:01:24,640 truss we've been able to finally put in 44 00:01:29,830 --> 00:01:26,720 its final spot which you see here on the 45 00:01:31,910 --> 00:01:29,840 far port side of the vehicle so uh 46 00:01:33,670 --> 00:01:31,920 you know these cooling systems that 47 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:33,680 spartan is in charge of along with the 48 00:01:36,870 --> 00:01:35,439 electrical systems are what 49 00:01:38,870 --> 00:01:36,880 keep the lights on and keep everything 50 00:01:40,149 --> 00:01:38,880 running on station very important 51 00:01:41,830 --> 00:01:40,159 absolutely and we want to make sure that 52 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:41,840 they're running okay so that's what 53 00:01:45,030 --> 00:01:43,119 normally the spartan officer is in 54 00:01:46,630 --> 00:01:45,040 charge of making sure that the all the 55 00:01:47,990 --> 00:01:46,640 lights and pumps and fans and everything 56 00:01:49,270 --> 00:01:48,000 are working right so we can get you know 57 00:01:51,030 --> 00:01:49,280 good science down on the station and 58 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:51,040 keep the keep the crew members safe and 59 00:01:55,270 --> 00:01:53,200 so last week we noticed that there was a 60 00:01:57,749 --> 00:01:55,280 a leak in the ammonia system that cools 61 00:01:59,190 --> 00:01:57,759 that uh area on the p6 truss right 62 00:02:00,870 --> 00:01:59,200 that's correct so we sent 63 00:02:02,709 --> 00:02:00,880 chris cassidy and tom marshburn out to 64 00:02:04,950 --> 00:02:02,719 do a spacewalk and take a look at it and 65 00:02:06,389 --> 00:02:04,960 get it prepared and and changed out is 66 00:02:08,070 --> 00:02:06,399 that right that's correct and that was 67 00:02:09,990 --> 00:02:08,080 done in record time you know we've we've 68 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:10,000 actually known that we've had a leak on 69 00:02:14,949 --> 00:02:12,000 the system for several years a very 70 00:02:17,030 --> 00:02:14,959 small leak starting back in 2006 about a 71 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:17,040 pound and a half per year so out of a 72 00:02:21,670 --> 00:02:19,280 you know a system that's several dozen 73 00:02:23,670 --> 00:02:21,680 pounds you know 100 maybe 100 pounds 74 00:02:25,589 --> 00:02:23,680 that's not that big of a deal so the 75 00:02:27,589 --> 00:02:25,599 first thing we did was we decided we'll 76 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:27,599 just feed the leak and so that was done 77 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:30,160 on ulf6 back in 2011 78 00:02:35,030 --> 00:02:32,640 mike fink and uh and drew feustel went 79 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:35,040 out to the p6 worksite and refilled that 80 00:02:37,830 --> 00:02:36,480 with ammonia from one of the other 81 00:02:39,110 --> 00:02:37,840 ammonia systems 82 00:02:41,030 --> 00:02:39,120 so we thought we were doing pretty good 83 00:02:42,869 --> 00:02:41,040 then and then the leak rate picked up 84 00:02:46,309 --> 00:02:42,879 last year middle of last year and that's 85 00:02:48,550 --> 00:02:46,319 when sunny and aki went out in eba 20 in 86 00:02:50,150 --> 00:02:48,560 early november of 2012 and that was to 87 00:02:52,229 --> 00:02:50,160 try and isolate the radiator because the 88 00:02:54,630 --> 00:02:52,239 leak had gotten a lot worse 89 00:02:56,309 --> 00:02:54,640 well we had a 50 50 chance on whether or 90 00:02:58,229 --> 00:02:56,319 not the leak was in the radiator or in 91 00:02:59,589 --> 00:02:58,239 the pump those are the two parts that 92 00:03:02,229 --> 00:02:59,599 you can replace 93 00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:02,239 and as we learned after eva 20 which 94 00:03:05,910 --> 00:03:04,319 sunny naki did in november wasn't in the 95 00:03:07,430 --> 00:03:05,920 radiator so 96 00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:07,440 we kept an eye on it we were watching 97 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:10,239 the leak and sure enough on thursday 98 00:03:13,110 --> 00:03:11,200 morning 99 00:03:15,190 --> 00:03:13,120 the crew called down seeing ammonia 100 00:03:17,190 --> 00:03:15,200 flakes let me show what that looks like 101 00:03:18,550 --> 00:03:17,200 here good video of it here yeah that's 102 00:03:20,149 --> 00:03:18,560 usually that should be liquid 103 00:03:22,790 --> 00:03:20,159 pressurized ammonia but when it's in the 104 00:03:24,309 --> 00:03:22,800 vacuum of space it will uh turn into 105 00:03:25,030 --> 00:03:24,319 these small flakes here which you can 106 00:03:27,990 --> 00:03:25,040 see 107 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:28,000 and so our leak rate which in mid 2012 108 00:03:31,670 --> 00:03:29,760 was a five pound per year leak rate 109 00:03:34,149 --> 00:03:31,680 turned into maybe a five pound per day 110 00:03:35,910 --> 00:03:34,159 leak rate we couldn't operate yeah we 111 00:03:37,910 --> 00:03:35,920 couldn't operate for very long with that 112 00:03:40,149 --> 00:03:37,920 so that's what led to the quickest 113 00:03:41,990 --> 00:03:40,159 turnaround stage eva that i think we've 114 00:03:43,750 --> 00:03:42,000 ever done here well and despite the 115 00:03:46,309 --> 00:03:43,760 quick turnaround it was very successful 116 00:03:49,110 --> 00:03:46,319 right they got in and out and uh the 117 00:03:51,030 --> 00:03:49,120 right amount of time on saturday and and 118 00:03:53,110 --> 00:03:51,040 it looks like they've got it fixed well 119 00:03:55,110 --> 00:03:53,120 well yeah right amount of time well they 120 00:03:57,030 --> 00:03:55,120 they raced through i think when i was 121 00:03:58,949 --> 00:03:57,040 putting in my console log that the crew 122 00:04:00,390 --> 00:03:58,959 was exiting the airlock as i was typing 123 00:04:03,190 --> 00:04:00,400 the sentence the crew reported from the 124 00:04:05,270 --> 00:04:03,200 far end of p6 so certainly got the the 125 00:04:07,429 --> 00:04:05,280 right crew members up there to to scurry 126 00:04:09,429 --> 00:04:07,439 around and do this pretty fast and as 127 00:04:12,229 --> 00:04:09,439 you said yeah we're feeling pretty good 128 00:04:13,750 --> 00:04:12,239 about where we are um the big leak you 129 00:04:15,990 --> 00:04:13,760 know the gusher that we were that the 130 00:04:18,310 --> 00:04:16,000 crew called down seeing the flakes from 131 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:18,320 we think we've got that isolated to the 132 00:04:22,550 --> 00:04:20,160 pump that we have taken out of the 133 00:04:24,469 --> 00:04:22,560 system we call we've referred to that uh 134 00:04:27,830 --> 00:04:24,479 the nomenclature of that pump is now mr 135 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:27,840 leaky uh and mr leaky is we still have 136 00:04:32,469 --> 00:04:30,720 uh telemetry insight on that pump and we 137 00:04:34,150 --> 00:04:32,479 can watch it right now you know the 138 00:04:35,510 --> 00:04:34,160 spartan officer matt gilson sitting over 139 00:04:36,950 --> 00:04:35,520 there right now is what just showed me 140 00:04:39,189 --> 00:04:36,960 the plot 141 00:04:41,590 --> 00:04:39,199 the accumulator in that pump is going 142 00:04:43,510 --> 00:04:41,600 down and that pump we know that that is 143 00:04:46,230 --> 00:04:43,520 got a big leak in it so that's a good 144 00:04:47,590 --> 00:04:46,240 sign whether or not the small leak we 145 00:04:49,909 --> 00:04:47,600 were seeing or small air leak we were 146 00:04:51,510 --> 00:04:49,919 seeing last year is also in that pump 147 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:51,520 well we'll have to check that over time 148 00:04:54,790 --> 00:04:53,280 but right now we're feeling pretty good 149 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:54,800 we definitely got the big leak and we're 150 00:04:58,390 --> 00:04:56,639 definitely able to run the system right 151 00:05:00,230 --> 00:04:58,400 now which is uh if you would have asked 152 00:05:01,510 --> 00:05:00,240 me last thursday if we were being this 153 00:05:03,590 --> 00:05:01,520 position right now i'd have said 154 00:05:05,909 --> 00:05:03,600 absolutely not so we're doing we're 155 00:05:07,670 --> 00:05:05,919 doing very well right now great so um 156 00:05:09,749 --> 00:05:07,680 how long will it take for you to know 157 00:05:11,189 --> 00:05:09,759 whether or not the small leak is gone if 158 00:05:12,790 --> 00:05:11,199 you fix that with with this change out 159 00:05:14,629 --> 00:05:12,800 as well so we have you know we have 160 00:05:16,070 --> 00:05:14,639 teams of engineers as well as those of 161 00:05:18,310 --> 00:05:16,080 us spartans who watch the data very 162 00:05:20,469 --> 00:05:18,320 closely and it'll probably take a couple 163 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:20,479 of months at least to be able to say you 164 00:05:25,510 --> 00:05:22,720 know what we think the uh what we think 165 00:05:27,749 --> 00:05:25,520 this system is doing and it'll take 166 00:05:29,510 --> 00:05:27,759 longer if it's leaking less or leaking 167 00:05:31,510 --> 00:05:29,520 not at all so as we've told our 168 00:05:33,430 --> 00:05:31,520 management we want to uh if they don't 169 00:05:35,590 --> 00:05:33,440 hear from us it's a good thing probably 170 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:35,600 so we'll keep an eye on the data and 171 00:05:37,749 --> 00:05:36,720 we'll look at it over the next couple of 172 00:05:40,070 --> 00:05:37,759 months and make sure the system's 173 00:05:42,469 --> 00:05:40,080 running healthy but we've got actually 174 00:05:43,830 --> 00:05:42,479 we you know when we first saw the leak 175 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:43,840 the first thing we did was we stopped 176 00:05:47,510 --> 00:05:45,919 the pump and when we did that we slowed 177 00:05:49,189 --> 00:05:47,520 down the leak rate so we've managed to 178 00:05:50,790 --> 00:05:49,199 hold on to enough ammonia that we can 179 00:05:53,110 --> 00:05:50,800 run the system and we still have a 180 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:53,120 little bit of margin to with which that 181 00:05:56,309 --> 00:05:54,240 you know as 182 00:05:57,749 --> 00:05:56,319 fluids cool down they contract so they 183 00:05:59,990 --> 00:05:57,759 have a little bit less 184 00:06:02,070 --> 00:06:00,000 fluid in the system we can survive those 185 00:06:03,909 --> 00:06:02,080 sort of orbital variations and and be 186 00:06:06,870 --> 00:06:03,919 okay so we're looking pretty good right 187 00:06:08,629 --> 00:06:06,880 now okay well um i know after i guess 188 00:06:09,510 --> 00:06:08,639 after they discovered the leak and knew 189 00:06:11,189 --> 00:06:09,520 we were 190 00:06:12,629 --> 00:06:11,199 planning to lose that loop of the 191 00:06:14,309 --> 00:06:12,639 electrical system they moved everything 192 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:14,319 over to the other loop so that we 193 00:06:18,550 --> 00:06:16,080 wouldn't turn off you know anything 194 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:18,560 unnecessarily has that all been re-moved 195 00:06:21,830 --> 00:06:20,400 back to that's a good question so the 196 00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:21,840 electrical power system of the station 197 00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:24,560 is designed very well uh we have a lot 198 00:06:29,189 --> 00:06:26,479 of redundancy and the ability to cross 199 00:06:31,510 --> 00:06:29,199 strap different power channels so that 200 00:06:33,110 --> 00:06:31,520 maybe one solar array feeds what another 201 00:06:35,590 --> 00:06:33,120 solar array should have that's all done 202 00:06:37,830 --> 00:06:35,600 at the mbsu main bus switching unit 203 00:06:39,749 --> 00:06:37,840 which you may remember from evas 18 and 204 00:06:42,070 --> 00:06:39,759 19 that sunny aki 205 00:06:43,990 --> 00:06:42,080 replaced one of those last year so this 206 00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:44,000 is the we're talking about the two bravo 207 00:06:47,510 --> 00:06:45,680 channel that's actually our winds up 208 00:06:49,749 --> 00:06:47,520 being our most important channel so when 209 00:06:52,230 --> 00:06:49,759 we saw that leaking we 210 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:52,240 handed over its loads to the two alpha 211 00:06:56,469 --> 00:06:54,240 channels so two alpha is now supporting 212 00:06:58,629 --> 00:06:56,479 all the twos the two and the two b 213 00:07:00,870 --> 00:06:58,639 and since then we haven't been actually 214 00:07:02,710 --> 00:07:00,880 pulling any power from the two bravo 215 00:07:04,309 --> 00:07:02,720 channel the one with which had the leak 216 00:07:05,990 --> 00:07:04,319 on it we're just waiting on some 217 00:07:07,589 --> 00:07:06,000 software updates to account for the new 218 00:07:10,150 --> 00:07:07,599 pump and then early next week we should 219 00:07:12,230 --> 00:07:10,160 be able to produce a happy healthy two 220 00:07:13,510 --> 00:07:12,240 bravo channel supporting its own loads 221 00:07:14,710 --> 00:07:13,520 okay and after that would you say that 222 00:07:16,230 --> 00:07:14,720 everything would be kind of back to 223 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:16,240 normal 224 00:07:19,270 --> 00:07:18,080 as far as the as far as crew and 225 00:07:20,629 --> 00:07:19,280 everybody else would be concerned to be 226 00:07:22,550 --> 00:07:20,639 back to normal as far as the spartan 227 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:22,560 console uh is concerned there's we 228 00:07:26,629 --> 00:07:24,240 haven't been in a normal for quite a 229 00:07:28,070 --> 00:07:26,639 long time but uh but it'll be manageable 230 00:07:29,350 --> 00:07:28,080 we'll call it manageable all right well 231 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:29,360 thanks so much for talking with us i